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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"1.000\" data-end=\"11.220\">Sehr geehrter Herr Präsident! </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"11.220\" data-end=\"13.780\">Liebe Kolleginnen und Kollegen! </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"13.780\" data-end=\"27.020\">Das Spannende an dieser Debatte ist: Weder die abstrusen Träume der AfD noch die populistische Angstmacherei von links werden sich bei diesem Förderprogramm bewahrheiten. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"27.020\" data-end=\"33.600\">Es ist schon mal wichtig, das an den Anfang zu stellen. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"33.600\" data-end=\"37.400\">Denn die Ministerin regelt das Förderprogramm „Demokratie leben!“ </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"37.400\" data-end=\"42.640\">neu, und zwar in der Mitte dieser Gesellschaft, auf dem Boden unseres Grundgesetzes. </span></p>",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"42.640\" data-end=\"52.120\">Schwierig finde ich es, wenn man in der Debatte Meinungsäußerung und Förderung in den gleichen Topf schmeißt. </span></p>",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"52.120\" data-end=\"57.880\">Denn seine Meinung äußern, kann jeder, wie er mag. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"57.880\" data-end=\"67.800\">Ob er zu dieser Meinung einen Anspruch auf staatliche Gelder hat, wie Sie es in den Raum stellen, das ist eine ganz andere Sache. </span></p>",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"comment\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"57.880\" data-end=\"80.720\">(Beifall bei der CDU/CSU – Marcel Emmerich [BÜNDNIS 90/DIE GRÜNEN]: Das eine sollte aber doch mit dem anderen nichts zu tun haben! – Zuruf der Abg. Clara Bünger [Die Linke]) </span></p>",
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                                    "text": "(Beifall bei der CDU/CSU – Marcel Emmerich [BÜNDNIS 90/DIE GRÜNEN]: Das eine sollte aber doch mit dem anderen nichts zu tun haben! – Zuruf der Abg. Clara Bünger [Die Linke])",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"67.800\" data-end=\"80.720\">Zeitlich befristete – das ist einfache deutsche Sprache – Förderprogramme, sogenannte Projektförderungen, sie können auslaufen. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"80.720\" data-end=\"85.440\">Gute Systeme halten am Bewährten fest und stellen das Nichtbewährte ein. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"85.440\" data-end=\"88.660\">Das ist eigentlich die Definition des Konservativen. </span></p>",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"88.660\" data-end=\"93.560\">Förderrichtlinien können sich verändern; das war auch jedem klar. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"93.560\" data-end=\"97.400\">Es ist vorhersehbar, es ist transparent, und es ist fair. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"97.400\" data-end=\"105.780\">Im Übrigen hat das Bundesministerium ausdrücklich schon mit Monaten Vorlauf darauf hingewiesen. </span></p>",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"105.780\" data-end=\"112.600\">Das muss ich schon sagen, Frau Khan: Wir regieren da ein bisschen sensibler als die Grünen, die über Nacht E-Auto-Förderungen kappen. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"112.600\" data-end=\"118.240\">Wir kündigen das mit Monaten Vorlauf an, sodass sich jeder darauf einstellen kann. </span></p>",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"comment\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"112.600\" data-end=\"126.480\">(Beifall bei der CDU/CSU – Marcel Emmerich [BÜNDNIS 90/DIE GRÜNEN]: Das war in einer Haushaltskrise!) </span></p>",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"118.240\" data-end=\"126.480\">Und wenn Frau Eißing heute ernsthaft behauptet, dass Antisemitismusförderung, die niemand – niemand! </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"126.480\" data-end=\"137.680\">– jemals infrage gestellt hat, gekappt wird, dann ist es in Anbetracht Ihrer Parteifreunde in Niedersachsen heuchlerisch und auch ein bisschen schändlich. </span></p>",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"137.680\" data-end=\"144.320\">Die Bundesministerin hat Ankündigungen gemacht, die in diesem Land eigentlich doch jeder unterschreiben muss. </span></p>",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"144.320\" data-end=\"145.880\">Erstens. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"145.880\" data-end=\"147.800\">Wer zahlt, schafft an. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"147.800\" data-end=\"153.240\">Damit ist klar: Der Bund will wissen: Wer kriegt am Ende das Geld, wer ist Letztempfänger? </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"153.240\" data-end=\"163.760\">Dass dies bisher nicht der Fall war, ist schon ein bisschen bedenklich und war bisher auch nur unter Missachtung einschlägiger Verwaltungsvorschriften zur Bundeshaushaltsordnung möglich. </span></p>",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"163.760\" data-end=\"168.540\">Der Staat muss beim Verteilen seiner Unterstützung doch nicht auf beiden Augen blind sein. </span></p>",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"168.540\" data-end=\"169.580\">Zweitens. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"169.580\" data-end=\"171.480\">Kein Geld für Verfassungsfeinde. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"171.480\" data-end=\"176.240\">Wir geben kein Geld für Institutionen, über die Erkenntnisse des Verfassungsschutzes vorliegen. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"176.240\" data-end=\"185.000\">Denn wenn dieser Staat tolerant zu Intoleranten ist, dann kann der Tag kommen, an dem die Intoleranten die Macht übernehmen und die Toleranten nichts mehr zu sagen haben. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"185.000\" data-end=\"187.520\">Kurz: Dieser Staat hilft. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"187.520\" data-end=\"189.880\">Er lässt sich aber nicht an der Nase herumführen. </span></p>",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"189.880\" data-end=\"194.800\">Herr Körner, erlauben Sie eine Zwischenfrage des Abgeordneten Beutin von der Linkspartei? </span></p>",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"194.800\" data-end=\"195.420\">Ja. </span></p>",
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                            "speaker": "Lorenz Gösta Beutin",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"198.720\" data-end=\"199.840\">Danke schön. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"199.840\" data-end=\"207.920\">– Kollege Körner, ich weiß nicht, ob Ihnen die wissenschaftlichen Leipziger Mitte-Studien bekannt sind. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"207.920\" data-end=\"217.140\">Diese haben sich mit der Radikalisierung der Mitte auseinandergesetzt, einem Problem, das wir gerade auch vor 1933 beobachten konnten. </span></p>",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"217.140\" data-end=\"224.560\">Die These ist, dass die bürgerliche Mitte im Kampf gegen den Antisemitismus ein Problem darstellt. </span></p>",
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                                    "text": "Die These ist, dass die bürgerliche Mitte im Kampf gegen den Antisemitismus ein Problem darstellt.",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"224.560\" data-end=\"226.120\">Das ist jetzt nicht Ihr Ernst. </span></p>",
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                                {
                                    "text": "Das ist jetzt nicht Ihr Ernst.",
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                            "type": "speech",
                            "speaker": "Lorenz Gösta Beutin",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"226.120\" data-end=\"228.320\">Diese Mitte-Studie </span></p>",
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                                {
                                    "text": "Diese Mitte-Studie",
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                            "type": "comment",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"comment\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"226.120\" data-end=\"241.700\">(Dr. Christoph Ploß [CDU/CSU]: Das sagt die Linkspartei! Also, das ist ja Hohn! Das war klar! Mit Hamassympathisanten zusammenarbeiten! Das ist Die Linke! – Martin Reichardt [AfD]: Das sagen ausgerechnet die! Die Kommunisten! – Kay Gottschalk [AfD]: Also, wer im Glashaus sitzt, sollte nicht mit Findlingen schmeißen! Unfassbar! – Weitere Zurufe von der CDU/CSU) </span></p>",
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                                {
                                    "text": "(Dr. Christoph Ploß [CDU/CSU]: Das sagt die Linkspartei! Also, das ist ja Hohn! Das war klar! Mit Hamassympathisanten zusammenarbeiten! Das ist Die Linke! – Martin Reichardt [AfD]: Das sagen ausgerechnet die! Die Kommunisten! – Kay Gottschalk [AfD]: Also, wer im Glashaus sitzt, sollte nicht mit Findlingen schmeißen! Unfassbar! – Weitere Zurufe von der CDU/CSU)",
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                        {
                            "type": "speech",
                            "speaker": "Lorenz Gösta Beutin",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"228.320\" data-end=\"241.700\">– bitte einmal ganz kurz zuhören – kommt zu dem Ergebnis, dass der Antisemitismus selbstverständlich bei der AfD am stärksten ist, und zwar mit 13,5 Prozent. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"241.700\" data-end=\"249.560\">Aber an der zweiten Stelle folgen sodann die Anhänger/-innen der Union mit 8,3 Prozent. </span></p>",
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                                {
                                    "text": "– bitte einmal ganz kurz zuhören – kommt zu dem Ergebnis, dass der Antisemitismus selbstverständlich bei der AfD am stärksten ist, und zwar mit 13,5 Prozent.",
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                                    "text": "Aber an der zweiten Stelle folgen sodann die Anhänger/-innen der Union mit 8,3 Prozent.",
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                            "type": "comment",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"comment\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"241.700\" data-end=\"262.200\">(Sven Wendorf [AfD]: Völlig absurde Kriterien zugrunde gelegt!) </span></p>",
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                                {
                                    "text": "(Sven Wendorf [AfD]: Völlig absurde Kriterien zugrunde gelegt!)",
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                        {
                            "type": "speech",
                            "speaker": "Lorenz Gösta Beutin",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"249.560\" data-end=\"262.200\">Würden Sie mir dann zustimmen, dass im Kampf gegen Antisemitismus gerade die bürgerliche Mitte und auch Ihre Anhänger/-innen beobachtet werden sollten und auch sie etwas Aufklärung und Bildung vertragen könnten? </span></p>",
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                                    "text": "Würden Sie mir dann zustimmen, dass im Kampf gegen Antisemitismus gerade die bürgerliche Mitte und auch Ihre Anhänger/-innen beobachtet werden sollten und auch sie etwas Aufklärung und Bildung vertragen könnten?",
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                            "type": "comment",
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                            "speakerstatus": null,
                            "text": "<p data-type=\"comment\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"249.560\" data-end=\"264.040\">(Beifall bei der Linken – Catarina dos Santos-Wintz [CDU/CSU]: Jeder kann Aufklärung und Bildung vertragen! Was ist das für eine Frage!) </span></p>",
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                                    "text": "(Beifall bei der Linken – Catarina dos Santos-Wintz [CDU/CSU]: Jeder kann Aufklärung und Bildung vertragen! Was ist das für eine Frage!)",
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                            "type": "speech",
                            "speaker": "Omid Nouripour",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"262.200\" data-end=\"264.040\">Herr Körner, bitte. </span></p>",
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                                    "text": "Herr Körner, bitte.",
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                        {
                            "type": "speech",
                            "speaker": "Konrad Körner",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"264.040\" data-end=\"271.380\">Herr Kollege, ich muss ganz ehrlich sagen: Ich bin schockiert. </span></p>",
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                                    "text": "Herr Kollege, ich muss ganz ehrlich sagen: Ich bin schockiert.",
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                            "type": "comment",
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                            "speakerstatus": null,
                            "text": "<p data-type=\"comment\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"264.040\" data-end=\"281.240\">(Dr. Anja Weisgerber [CDU/CSU]: Ja! – Maik Brückner [Die Linke]: Die Studie ist auch schockierend! – Lorenz Gösta Beutin [Die Linke]: Zahlen!) </span></p>",
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                                    "text": "(Dr. Anja Weisgerber [CDU/CSU]: Ja! – Maik Brückner [Die Linke]: Die Studie ist auch schockierend! – Lorenz Gösta Beutin [Die Linke]: Zahlen!)",
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                        {
                            "type": "speech",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"271.380\" data-end=\"281.240\">Sie fassen auf Parteitagen antizionistische Beschlüsse, die das Existenzrecht des Staates Israels infrage stellen. </span></p>",
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                                    "text": "Sie fassen auf Parteitagen antizionistische Beschlüsse, die das Existenzrecht des Staates Israels infrage stellen.",
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                            "type": "comment",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"comment\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"271.380\" data-end=\"285.240\">(Maik Brückner [Die Linke]: Das stimmt überhaupt nicht! – Lorenz Gösta Beutin [Die Linke]: Das stimmt nicht! Das ist gelogen! Lesen Sie mal den Antrag! Das ist gelogen!) </span></p>",
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                                    "text": "(Maik Brückner [Die Linke]: Das stimmt überhaupt nicht! – Lorenz Gösta Beutin [Die Linke]: Das stimmt nicht! Das ist gelogen! Lesen Sie mal den Antrag! Das ist gelogen!)",
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                        {
                            "type": "speech",
                            "speaker": "Konrad Körner",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"281.240\" data-end=\"285.240\">– Das machen Funktionäre von Ihnen jeden Tag! </span></p>",
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                                    "text": "– Das machen Funktionäre von Ihnen jeden Tag!",
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                            "type": "comment",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"comment\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"281.240\" data-end=\"292.760\">(Beifall bei der CDU/CSU sowie bei Abgeordneten der AfD) </span></p>",
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                                    "text": "(Beifall bei der CDU/CSU sowie bei Abgeordneten der AfD)",
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                        {
                            "type": "speech",
                            "speaker": "Konrad Körner",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"285.240\" data-end=\"292.760\">Niemand steht so deutlich an der Seite von Jüdinnen und Juden in diesem Land wie die CDU/CSU. </span></p>",
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                                    "text": "Niemand steht so deutlich an der Seite von Jüdinnen und Juden in diesem Land wie die CDU/CSU.",
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                            "type": "comment",
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                            "speakerstatus": null,
                            "text": "<p data-type=\"comment\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"285.240\" data-end=\"295.960\">(Dr. Anja Weisgerber [CDU/CSU]: Absolut! – Lorenz Gösta Beutin [Die Linke]: Sie lügen!) </span></p>",
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                                    "text": "(Dr. Anja Weisgerber [CDU/CSU]: Absolut! – Lorenz Gösta Beutin [Die Linke]: Sie lügen!)",
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                        },
                        {
                            "type": "speech",
                            "speaker": "Konrad Körner",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"292.760\" data-end=\"295.960\">Sie laufen mit Hamasterroristen in Berlin rum. </span></p>",
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                                    "text": "Sie laufen mit Hamasterroristen in Berlin rum.",
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                            "type": "comment",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"comment\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"292.760\" data-end=\"298.520\">(Lorenz Gösta Beutin [Die Linke]: Sie lügen!) </span></p>",
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                                    "text": "(Lorenz Gösta Beutin [Die Linke]: Sie lügen!)",
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                        {
                            "type": "speech",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"295.960\" data-end=\"298.520\">Ich lasse mir von Ihnen dazu ganz sicher nichts sagen. </span></p>",
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                                    "text": "Ich lasse mir von Ihnen dazu ganz sicher nichts sagen.",
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                            "type": "comment",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"comment\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"295.960\" data-end=\"299.880\">(Beifall bei der CDU/CSU – Dr. Anja Weisgerber [CDU/CSU]: Sehr gute Antwort, Konrad! – Lorenz Gösta Beutin [Die Linke]: Sie lügen! – Clara Bünger [Die Linke]: Das ist Schuldabwehr! – Heidi Reichinnek [Die Linke]: Sie können gerne von Ihrem Antisemitismus ablenken, den die Juden hier erlebt haben! Jeden Tag! – Weitere Zurufe von der Linken) </span></p>",
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                                    "text": "(Beifall bei der CDU/CSU – Dr. Anja Weisgerber [CDU/CSU]: Sehr gute Antwort, Konrad! – Lorenz Gösta Beutin [Die Linke]: Sie lügen! – Clara Bünger [Die Linke]: Das ist Schuldabwehr! – Heidi Reichinnek [Die Linke]: Sie können gerne von Ihrem Antisemitismus ablenken, den die Juden hier erlebt haben! Jeden Tag! – Weitere Zurufe von der Linken)",
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                            "type": "speech",
                            "speaker": "Omid Nouripour",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"298.520\" data-end=\"299.880\">Die Redezeit läuft weiter. </span></p>",
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                                    "text": "Die Redezeit läuft weiter.",
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                            "type": "speech",
                            "speaker": "Konrad Körner",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"299.880\" data-end=\"312.280\">Ich wollte mich, Herr Präsident, heute, vorm Osterfest, noch etwas mäßigen; aber es ging jetzt nicht anders. </span></p>",
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                                    "text": "Ich wollte mich, Herr Präsident, heute, vorm Osterfest, noch etwas mäßigen; aber es ging jetzt nicht anders.",
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                            "type": "comment",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"comment\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"299.880\" data-end=\"314.280\">(Ates Gürpinar [Die Linke]: Peinlich, Herr Körner!) </span></p>",
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                                    "text": "(Ates Gürpinar [Die Linke]: Peinlich, Herr Körner!)",
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                        {
                            "type": "speech",
                            "speaker": "Konrad Körner",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"312.280\" data-end=\"314.280\">Also, drittens. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"314.280\" data-end=\"316.880\">Vor Ort muss das Geld ankommen. „ </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"316.880\" data-end=\"320.360\">Bundeszentrale Infrastruktur“ ist eine Förderlinie. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"320.360\" data-end=\"324.160\">Aber wir wollen doch, dass das Geld in die Fläche kommt. </span></p>",
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                                    "text": "Also, drittens.",
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                                    "text": "Vor Ort muss das Geld ankommen. „",
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                                    "text": "Bundeszentrale Infrastruktur“ ist eine Förderlinie.",
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                                    "text": "Aber wir wollen doch, dass das Geld in die Fläche kommt.",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"comment\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"320.360\" data-end=\"328.200\">(Zuruf der Abg. Heidi Reichinnek [Die Linke]) </span></p>",
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                                    "text": "(Zuruf der Abg. Heidi Reichinnek [Die Linke])",
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                        {
                            "type": "speech",
                            "speaker": "Konrad Körner",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"324.160\" data-end=\"328.200\">Wir wollen nicht, dass das Gefühl entsteht, dass man um sich selbst kreist. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"328.200\" data-end=\"336.000\">Wir wollen, dass es bei der Feuerwehr, in der Gemeindebücherei oder bei der Pfadfindergruppe ankommt, wenn es eben der Demokratiebildung dient. </span></p>",
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                                    "text": "Wir wollen nicht, dass das Gefühl entsteht, dass man um sich selbst kreist.",
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                                    "text": "Wir wollen, dass es bei der Feuerwehr, in der Gemeindebücherei oder bei der Pfadfindergruppe ankommt, wenn es eben der Demokratiebildung dient.",
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                            "type": "speech",
                            "speaker": "Konrad Körner",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"336.000\" data-end=\"341.360\">Herr Emmerich, wenn Sie sagen: „Man braucht aber unbedingt die Fortbildung“, dann antworte ich: Das stimmt. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"341.360\" data-end=\"346.360\">Da wird es auch Möglichkeiten geben, aber doch nicht mit einem Schwerpunkt bei diesem Programm. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"346.360\" data-end=\"348.360\">Der Schwerpunkt muss bei den Bürgern liegen. </span></p>",
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                                    "text": "Herr Emmerich, wenn Sie sagen: „Man braucht aber unbedingt die Fortbildung“, dann antworte ich: Das stimmt.",
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                                    "text": "Da wird es auch Möglichkeiten geben, aber doch nicht mit einem Schwerpunkt bei diesem Programm.",
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                                    "text": "Der Schwerpunkt muss bei den Bürgern liegen.",
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                            "type": "comment",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"comment\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"346.360\" data-end=\"349.320\">(Beifall bei Abgeordneten der CDU/CSU) </span></p>",
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                                    "text": "(Beifall bei Abgeordneten der CDU/CSU)",
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                            "type": "speech",
                            "speaker": "Konrad Körner",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"348.360\" data-end=\"349.320\">Viertens. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"349.320\" data-end=\"355.920\">Die Entscheidung, wer am Ende Steuerzahlergeld bekommt, soll demokratisch legitimiert sein. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"355.920\" data-end=\"367.180\">Dass Entscheidungen, wer Geld bekommt, von Leuten gefällt werden, die selbst Geld bekommen, wäre in keinem größeren Unternehmen mehr denkbar; so viel Compliance muss ja sein. </span></p>",
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                                    "text": "Viertens.",
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                                    "text": "Die Entscheidung, wer am Ende Steuerzahlergeld bekommt, soll demokratisch legitimiert sein.",
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                                    "text": "Dass Entscheidungen, wer Geld bekommt, von Leuten gefällt werden, die selbst Geld bekommen, wäre in keinem größeren Unternehmen mehr denkbar; so viel Compliance muss ja sein.",
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                            "type": "comment",
                            "speaker": null,
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"comment\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"355.920\" data-end=\"372.760\">(Ates Gürpinar [Die Linke]: Fragen Sie doch mal Jens Spahn!) </span></p>",
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                                    "text": "(Ates Gürpinar [Die Linke]: Fragen Sie doch mal Jens Spahn!)",
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                        {
                            "type": "speech",
                            "speaker": "Konrad Körner",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"367.180\" data-end=\"372.760\">Deswegen sagen wir: mehr Entscheidung durch demokratisch gewählte Entscheidungsträger vor Ort. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"372.760\" data-end=\"377.400\">Wer kann bei Demokratieförderung eigentlich was gegen demokratische Entscheidungen haben? </span></p>",
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                                    "text": "Deswegen sagen wir: mehr Entscheidung durch demokratisch gewählte Entscheidungsträger vor Ort.",
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                                    "text": "Wer kann bei Demokratieförderung eigentlich was gegen demokratische Entscheidungen haben?",
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                            "type": "comment",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"comment\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"372.760\" data-end=\"378.480\">(Beifall bei Abgeordneten der CDU/CSU – Martin Reichardt [AfD]: Die Linken!) </span></p>",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"395.280\" data-end=\"400.080\">– einer NGO, die davon betroffen ist, hat dieses Reformvorhaben von Karin Prien ausdrücklich begrüßt. </span></p>",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"405.080\" data-end=\"406.840\">Lassen Sie uns an dieser Stelle weitermachen! </span></p>",
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                            "text": "<p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"406.840\" data-end=\"408.000\">Herzlichen Dank. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"408.000\" data-end=\"413.960\">– Der letzte Redner in dieser Debatte ist Wolfgang Dahler für die Unionsfraktion. </span></p>",
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                    "textHTML": "<p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"1.000\" data-end=\"11.220\">Sehr geehrter Herr Präsident! </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"11.220\" data-end=\"13.780\">Liebe Kolleginnen und Kollegen! </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"13.780\" data-end=\"27.020\">Das Spannende an dieser Debatte ist: Weder die abstrusen Träume der AfD noch die populistische Angstmacherei von links werden sich bei diesem Förderprogramm bewahrheiten. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"27.020\" data-end=\"33.600\">Es ist schon mal wichtig, das an den Anfang zu stellen. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"33.600\" data-end=\"37.400\">Denn die Ministerin regelt das Förderprogramm „Demokratie leben!“ </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"37.400\" data-end=\"42.640\">neu, und zwar in der Mitte dieser Gesellschaft, auf dem Boden unseres Grundgesetzes. </span></p><p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"42.640\" data-end=\"52.120\">Schwierig finde ich es, wenn man in der Debatte Meinungsäußerung und Förderung in den gleichen Topf schmeißt. </span></p><p data-type=\"comment\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"42.640\" data-end=\"57.880\">(Beifall bei der CDU/CSU – Marcel Emmerich [BÜNDNIS 90/DIE GRÜNEN]: Das machen Sie doch! – Zuruf der Abg. Filiz Polat [BÜNDNIS 90/DIE GRÜNEN]) </span></p><p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"52.120\" data-end=\"57.880\">Denn seine Meinung äußern, kann jeder, wie er mag. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"57.880\" data-end=\"67.800\">Ob er zu dieser Meinung einen Anspruch auf staatliche Gelder hat, wie Sie es in den Raum stellen, das ist eine ganz andere Sache. </span></p><p data-type=\"comment\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"57.880\" data-end=\"80.720\">(Beifall bei der CDU/CSU – Marcel Emmerich [BÜNDNIS 90/DIE GRÜNEN]: Das eine sollte aber doch mit dem anderen nichts zu tun haben! – Zuruf der Abg. Clara Bünger [Die Linke]) </span></p><p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"67.800\" data-end=\"80.720\">Zeitlich befristete – das ist einfache deutsche Sprache – Förderprogramme, sogenannte Projektförderungen, sie können auslaufen. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"80.720\" data-end=\"85.440\">Gute Systeme halten am Bewährten fest und stellen das Nichtbewährte ein. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"85.440\" data-end=\"88.660\">Das ist eigentlich die Definition des Konservativen. </span></p><p data-type=\"comment\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"85.440\" data-end=\"93.560\">(Zuruf der Abg. Clara Bünger [Die Linke]) </span></p><p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"88.660\" data-end=\"93.560\">Förderrichtlinien können sich verändern; das war auch jedem klar. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"93.560\" data-end=\"97.400\">Es ist vorhersehbar, es ist transparent, und es ist fair. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"97.400\" data-end=\"105.780\">Im Übrigen hat das Bundesministerium ausdrücklich schon mit Monaten Vorlauf darauf hingewiesen. </span></p><p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"105.780\" data-end=\"112.600\">Das muss ich schon sagen, Frau Khan: Wir regieren da ein bisschen sensibler als die Grünen, die über Nacht E-Auto-Förderungen kappen. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"112.600\" data-end=\"118.240\">Wir kündigen das mit Monaten Vorlauf an, sodass sich jeder darauf einstellen kann. </span></p><p data-type=\"comment\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"112.600\" data-end=\"126.480\">(Beifall bei der CDU/CSU – Marcel Emmerich [BÜNDNIS 90/DIE GRÜNEN]: Das war in einer Haushaltskrise!) </span></p><p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"118.240\" data-end=\"126.480\">Und wenn Frau Eißing heute ernsthaft behauptet, dass Antisemitismusförderung, die niemand – niemand! </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"126.480\" data-end=\"137.680\">– jemals infrage gestellt hat, gekappt wird, dann ist es in Anbetracht Ihrer Parteifreunde in Niedersachsen heuchlerisch und auch ein bisschen schändlich. </span></p><p data-type=\"comment\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"126.480\" data-end=\"144.320\">(Beifall bei der CDU/CSU) </span></p><p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"137.680\" data-end=\"144.320\">Die Bundesministerin hat Ankündigungen gemacht, die in diesem Land eigentlich doch jeder unterschreiben muss. </span></p><p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"144.320\" data-end=\"145.880\">Erstens. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"145.880\" data-end=\"147.800\">Wer zahlt, schafft an. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"147.800\" data-end=\"153.240\">Damit ist klar: Der Bund will wissen: Wer kriegt am Ende das Geld, wer ist Letztempfänger? </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"153.240\" data-end=\"163.760\">Dass dies bisher nicht der Fall war, ist schon ein bisschen bedenklich und war bisher auch nur unter Missachtung einschlägiger Verwaltungsvorschriften zur Bundeshaushaltsordnung möglich. </span></p><p data-type=\"comment\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"153.240\" data-end=\"168.540\">(Zuruf des Abg. Ates Gürpinar [Die Linke]) </span></p><p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"163.760\" data-end=\"168.540\">Der Staat muss beim Verteilen seiner Unterstützung doch nicht auf beiden Augen blind sein. </span></p><p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"168.540\" data-end=\"169.580\">Zweitens. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"169.580\" data-end=\"171.480\">Kein Geld für Verfassungsfeinde. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"171.480\" data-end=\"176.240\">Wir geben kein Geld für Institutionen, über die Erkenntnisse des Verfassungsschutzes vorliegen. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"176.240\" data-end=\"185.000\">Denn wenn dieser Staat tolerant zu Intoleranten ist, dann kann der Tag kommen, an dem die Intoleranten die Macht übernehmen und die Toleranten nichts mehr zu sagen haben. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"185.000\" data-end=\"187.520\">Kurz: Dieser Staat hilft. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"187.520\" data-end=\"189.880\">Er lässt sich aber nicht an der Nase herumführen. </span></p><p data-type=\"comment\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"187.520\" data-end=\"194.800\">(Beifall bei der CDU/CSU) </span></p><p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"189.880\" data-end=\"194.800\">Herr Körner, erlauben Sie eine Zwischenfrage des Abgeordneten Beutin von der Linkspartei? </span></p><p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"194.800\" data-end=\"195.420\">Ja. </span></p><p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"195.420\" data-end=\"198.720\">Bitte schön. </span></p><p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"198.720\" data-end=\"199.840\">Danke schön. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"199.840\" data-end=\"207.920\">– Kollege Körner, ich weiß nicht, ob Ihnen die wissenschaftlichen Leipziger Mitte-Studien bekannt sind. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"207.920\" data-end=\"217.140\">Diese haben sich mit der Radikalisierung der Mitte auseinandergesetzt, einem Problem, das wir gerade auch vor 1933 beobachten konnten. </span></p><p data-type=\"comment\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"207.920\" data-end=\"224.560\">(Lachen bei Abgeordneten der AfD) </span></p><p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"217.140\" data-end=\"224.560\">Die These ist, dass die bürgerliche Mitte im Kampf gegen den Antisemitismus ein Problem darstellt. </span></p><p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"224.560\" data-end=\"226.120\">Das ist jetzt nicht Ihr Ernst. </span></p><p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"226.120\" data-end=\"228.320\">Diese Mitte-Studie </span></p><p data-type=\"comment\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"226.120\" data-end=\"241.700\">(Dr. Christoph Ploß [CDU/CSU]: Das sagt die Linkspartei! Also, das ist ja Hohn! Das war klar! Mit Hamassympathisanten zusammenarbeiten! Das ist Die Linke! – Martin Reichardt [AfD]: Das sagen ausgerechnet die! Die Kommunisten! – Kay Gottschalk [AfD]: Also, wer im Glashaus sitzt, sollte nicht mit Findlingen schmeißen! Unfassbar! – Weitere Zurufe von der CDU/CSU) </span></p><p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"228.320\" data-end=\"241.700\">– bitte einmal ganz kurz zuhören – kommt zu dem Ergebnis, dass der Antisemitismus selbstverständlich bei der AfD am stärksten ist, und zwar mit 13,5 Prozent. </span><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"241.700\" data-end=\"249.560\">Aber an der zweiten Stelle folgen sodann die Anhänger/-innen der Union mit 8,3 Prozent. </span></p><p data-type=\"comment\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"241.700\" data-end=\"262.200\">(Sven Wendorf [AfD]: Völlig absurde Kriterien zugrunde gelegt!) </span></p><p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"249.560\" data-end=\"262.200\">Würden Sie mir dann zustimmen, dass im Kampf gegen Antisemitismus gerade die bürgerliche Mitte und auch Ihre Anhänger/-innen beobachtet werden sollten und auch sie etwas Aufklärung und Bildung vertragen könnten? </span></p><p data-type=\"comment\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"249.560\" data-end=\"264.040\">(Beifall bei der Linken – Catarina dos Santos-Wintz [CDU/CSU]: Jeder kann Aufklärung und Bildung vertragen! Was ist das für eine Frage!) </span></p><p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"262.200\" data-end=\"264.040\">Herr Körner, bitte. </span></p><p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"264.040\" data-end=\"271.380\">Herr Kollege, ich muss ganz ehrlich sagen: Ich bin schockiert. </span></p><p data-type=\"comment\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"264.040\" data-end=\"281.240\">(Dr. Anja Weisgerber [CDU/CSU]: Ja! – Maik Brückner [Die Linke]: Die Studie ist auch schockierend! – Lorenz Gösta Beutin [Die Linke]: Zahlen!) </span></p><p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"271.380\" data-end=\"281.240\">Sie fassen auf Parteitagen antizionistische Beschlüsse, die das Existenzrecht des Staates Israels infrage stellen. </span></p><p data-type=\"comment\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"271.380\" data-end=\"285.240\">(Maik Brückner [Die Linke]: Das stimmt überhaupt nicht! – Lorenz Gösta Beutin [Die Linke]: Das stimmt nicht! Das ist gelogen! Lesen Sie mal den Antrag! Das ist gelogen!) </span></p><p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"281.240\" data-end=\"285.240\">– Das machen Funktionäre von Ihnen jeden Tag! </span></p><p data-type=\"comment\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"281.240\" data-end=\"292.760\">(Beifall bei der CDU/CSU sowie bei Abgeordneten der AfD) </span></p><p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"285.240\" data-end=\"292.760\">Niemand steht so deutlich an der Seite von Jüdinnen und Juden in diesem Land wie die CDU/CSU. </span></p><p data-type=\"comment\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"285.240\" data-end=\"295.960\">(Dr. Anja Weisgerber [CDU/CSU]: Absolut! – Lorenz Gösta Beutin [Die Linke]: Sie lügen!) </span></p><p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"292.760\" data-end=\"295.960\">Sie laufen mit Hamasterroristen in Berlin rum. </span></p><p data-type=\"comment\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"292.760\" data-end=\"298.520\">(Lorenz Gösta Beutin [Die Linke]: Sie lügen!) </span></p><p data-type=\"speech\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"295.960\" data-end=\"298.520\">Ich lasse mir von Ihnen dazu ganz sicher nichts sagen. </span></p><p data-type=\"comment\"><span class=\"timebased\" data-start=\"295.960\" data-end=\"299.880\">(Beifall bei der CDU/CSU – Dr. Anja Weisgerber [CDU/CSU]: Sehr gute Antwort, Konrad! – Lorenz Gösta Beutin [Die Linke]: Sie lügen! – Clara Bünger [Die Linke]: Das ist Schuldabwehr! – Heidi Reichinnek [Die Linke]: Sie können gerne von Ihrem Antisemitismus ablenken, den die Juden hier erlebt haben! 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