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Sehr geehrter Herr Präsident! Sehr geehrte Kolleginnen und Kollegen! Die AfD kennt offensichtlich nicht den Unterschied zwischen Meinung und Wissenschaft. Die AfD für Wissenschaftsfreiheit. Das ist wie ein Brandstifter, der sich für den Denkmalschutz einsetzt – solange ihm das Denkmal gefällt. Denn darum geht es hier: nicht um Freiheit, sondern um Selektion. Welche Wissenschaft darf sein, und welche soll verschwinden?

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(Dr. Christoph Birghan [AfD]: Wissenschaft kennen Sie doch nur von außen! – Gegenruf des Abg. Sven Lehmann [BÜNDNIS 90/DIE GRÜNEN]: Jetzt mal ruhig hier! – Lachen bei Abgeordneten der AfD – Gegenruf des Abg. Jörn König [AfD]: Herr Lehmann! Das ist ja ein Lacher! – Weiterer Gegenruf des Abg. Dr. Ingo Hahn [AfD]: Der war gut!)

", "sentences": [ { "text": "(Dr. Christoph Birghan [AfD]: Wissenschaft kennen Sie doch nur von außen! – Gegenruf des Abg. Sven Lehmann [BÜNDNIS 90/DIE GRÜNEN]: Jetzt mal ruhig hier! – Lachen bei Abgeordneten der AfD – Gegenruf des Abg. Jörn König [AfD]: Herr Lehmann! Das ist ja ein Lacher! – Weiterer Gegenruf des Abg. Dr. Ingo Hahn [AfD]: Der war gut!)", "timeStart": "31.920", "timeEnd": "40.080" } ] }, { "type": "speech", "speaker": "Ayse Asar", "speakerstatus": "main-speaker", "text": "

Wissenschaftsfreiheit ist kein linker oder rechter Wert. Sie ist die Grundlage jeder offenen Gesellschaft. Deshalb müssen wir heute klar benennen, was dieser Antrag wirklich ist. Alice Weidel hat auf dem AfD-Parteitag im Januar 2025 offen ausgesprochen – ich zitiere mit Zustimmung des Präsidenten –: „Wir schmeißen […] diese Professoren raus.“ Kein Halbsatz, kein Konjunktiv – ein Versprechen.

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(Dr. Bernd Baumann [AfD]: Die links-grünen Ideologen waren gemeint! Ihresgleichen!)

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Das ist keine Kritik an der Wissenschaft, das ist eine Drohung gegen sie.

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(Beifall beim BÜNDNIS 90/DIE GRÜNEN sowie bei Abgeordneten der SPD und der Abg. Sonja Lemke [Die Linke])

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Und es bleibt nicht bei Drohungen. Auch das AfD-Wahlprogramm aus Sachsen-Anhalt liest sich wie eine Drohkulisse gegen die Hochschulen: Hochschulgremien werden als pseudodemokratisch abgewertet,

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(Dr. Bernd Baumann [AfD]: Gibt ja genug davon! – Dr. Christoph Birghan [AfD]: Das sind sie!)

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und am Ende steht die offene Ankündigung, die AfD werde die deutsche Wissenschaft „zu sich selbst befreien“.

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(Dr. Bernd Baumann [AfD]: Das wäre schön!)

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Befreien von wem?

", "sentences": [ { "text": "Befreien von wem?", "timeStart": "94.640", "timeEnd": "96.760" } ] }, { "type": "comment", "speaker": null, "speakerstatus": null, "text": "

(Dr. Bernd Baumann [AfD]: Von links-grünen Ideologen, die sie kaputtmachen!)

", "sentences": [ { "text": "(Dr. Bernd Baumann [AfD]: Von links-grünen Ideologen, die sie kaputtmachen!)", "timeStart": "94.640", "timeEnd": "101.160" } ] }, { "type": "speech", "speaker": "Ayse Asar", "speakerstatus": "main-speaker", "text": "

Von den Wissenschaftlerinnen und Wissenschaftlern, die in ihr arbeiten!

", "sentences": [ { "text": "Von den Wissenschaftlerinnen und Wissenschaftlern, die in ihr arbeiten!", "timeStart": "96.760", "timeEnd": "101.160" } ] }, { "type": "speech", "speaker": "Ayse Asar", "speakerstatus": "main-speaker", "text": "

Dazu kommen gezielte parlamentarische Anfragen zu einzelnen Seminaren, zu konkreten Lehrveranstaltungen – nicht um zu verstehen, sondern um zu markieren, um Druck zu erzeugen, um Forschende einzuschüchtern.

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(Jörn König [AfD]: Wie war das: Frontalagentin? Das war von euch! Und ihr habt die alle markieren wollen, die Leute!)

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Das ist kein Plädoyer für Freiheit, das ist das Gegenteil.

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(Beifall beim BÜNDNIS 90/DIE GRÜNEN sowie bei Abgeordneten der SPD und der Abg. Sonja Lemke [Die Linke])

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Nun könnte man sagen, das betrifft doch nur bestimmte Fächer. Aber ich frage Sie: Wer entscheidet, welche Wissenschaft erlaubt ist?

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(Zuruf von der AfD: Sie nicht!)

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Heute ist es Postkolonialismus, morgen die Klimaforschung und übermorgen jede Disziplin, deren Ergebnisse Ihnen politisch nicht passen. Dann entscheidet nicht mehr Methode oder Erkenntnisstand, sondern Ideologie.

", "sentences": [ { "text": "Heute ist es Postkolonialismus, morgen die Klimaforschung und übermorgen jede Disziplin, deren Ergebnisse Ihnen politisch nicht passen.", "timeStart": "128.240", "timeEnd": "137.720" }, { "text": "Dann entscheidet nicht mehr Methode oder Erkenntnisstand, sondern Ideologie.", "timeStart": "137.720", "timeEnd": "142.640" } ] }, { "type": "comment", "speaker": null, "speakerstatus": null, "text": "

(Dr. Bernd Baumann [AfD]: Das ist ja jetzt schon so! – Dr. Ingo Hahn [AfD]: Das ist der Status quo!)

", "sentences": [ { "text": "(Dr. Bernd Baumann [AfD]: Das ist ja jetzt schon so! – Dr. Ingo Hahn [AfD]: Das ist der Status quo!)", "timeStart": "137.720", "timeEnd": "148.840" } ] }, { "type": "speech", "speaker": "Ayse Asar", "speakerstatus": "main-speaker", "text": "

Das ist das Ende der Wissenschaftsfreiheit, egal welches Fach es ist.

", "sentences": [ { "text": "Das ist das Ende der Wissenschaftsfreiheit, egal welches Fach es ist.", "timeStart": "142.640", "timeEnd": "148.840" } ] }, { "type": "comment", "speaker": null, "speakerstatus": null, "text": "

(Dr. Christoph Birghan [AfD]: Wer hat denn die Cancel-Culture eingeführt?)

", "sentences": [ { "text": "(Dr. Christoph Birghan [AfD]: Wer hat denn die Cancel-Culture eingeführt?)", "timeStart": "142.640", "timeEnd": "152.920" } ] }, { "type": "speech", "speaker": "Ayse Asar", "speakerstatus": "main-speaker", "text": "

Besonders aufmerksam sollten wir beim Begriff der Neutralität sein. „ Neutralität“ klingt harmlos. Aber staatlich verordnete Neutralität bedeutet in der Praxis: Schweigen, wo Forschung unbequem ist, Schweigen zum Klimawandel,

", "sentences": [ { "text": "Besonders aufmerksam sollten wir beim Begriff der Neutralität sein. „", "timeStart": "148.840", "timeEnd": "152.920" }, { "text": "Neutralität“ klingt harmlos.", "timeStart": "152.920", "timeEnd": "155.120" }, { "text": "Aber staatlich verordnete Neutralität bedeutet in der Praxis: Schweigen, wo Forschung unbequem ist, Schweigen zum Klimawandel,", "timeStart": "155.120", "timeEnd": "163.480" } ] }, { "type": "comment", "speaker": null, "speakerstatus": null, "text": "

(Dr. Ingo Hahn [AfD]: Der Klimawandel schweigt ja nicht, wie wir mitbekommen haben!)

", "sentences": [ { "text": "(Dr. Ingo Hahn [AfD]: Der Klimawandel schweigt ja nicht, wie wir mitbekommen haben!)", "timeStart": "155.120", "timeEnd": "168.960" } ] }, { "type": "speech", "speaker": "Ayse Asar", "speakerstatus": "main-speaker", "text": "

Schweigen zu Rechtsextremismus, Schweigen dort, wo Fakten politisch stören.

", "sentences": [ { "text": "Schweigen zu Rechtsextremismus, Schweigen dort, wo Fakten politisch stören.", "timeStart": "163.480", "timeEnd": "168.960" } ] }, { "type": "speech", "speaker": "Omid Nouripour", "speakerstatus": "vice-president", "text": "

Erlauben Sie eine Zwischenfrage aus der AfD-Fraktion?

", "sentences": [ { "text": "Erlauben Sie eine Zwischenfrage aus der AfD-Fraktion?", "timeStart": "168.960", "timeEnd": "171.360" } ] }, { "type": "speech", "speaker": "Ayse Asar", "speakerstatus": "main-speaker", "text": "

Nein.

", "sentences": [ { "text": "Nein.", "timeStart": "171.360", "timeEnd": "172.040" } ] }, { "type": "comment", "speaker": null, "speakerstatus": null, "text": "

(Dr. Ingo Hahn [AfD]: Das haben wir uns gedacht!)

", "sentences": [ { "text": "(Dr. Ingo Hahn [AfD]: Das haben wir uns gedacht!)", "timeStart": "171.360", "timeEnd": "173.160" } ] }, { "type": "speech", "speaker": "Omid Nouripour", "speakerstatus": "vice-president", "text": "

Setzen Sie Ihre Rede fort.

", "sentences": [ { "text": "Setzen Sie Ihre Rede fort.", "timeStart": "172.040", "timeEnd": "173.160" } ] }, { "type": "speech", "speaker": "Ayse Asar", "speakerstatus": "main-speaker", "text": "

Wissenschaft ist dem Wissen verpflichtet, nicht der politischen Bequemlichkeit. Das ist der Unterschied zwischen Erkenntnis und Propaganda.

", "sentences": [ { "text": "Wissenschaft ist dem Wissen verpflichtet, nicht der politischen Bequemlichkeit.", "timeStart": "173.160", "timeEnd": "177.240" }, { "text": "Das ist der Unterschied zwischen Erkenntnis und Propaganda.", "timeStart": "177.240", "timeEnd": "181.880" } ] }, { "type": "comment", "speaker": null, "speakerstatus": null, "text": "

(Beifall beim BÜNDNIS 90/DIE GRÜNEN sowie bei Abgeordneten der SPD und der Abg. Nicole Gohlke [Die Linke] – Zuruf der Abg. Nicole Höchst [AfD])

", "sentences": [ { "text": "(Beifall beim BÜNDNIS 90/DIE GRÜNEN sowie bei Abgeordneten der SPD und der Abg. Nicole Gohlke [Die Linke] – Zuruf der Abg. Nicole Höchst [AfD])", "timeStart": "177.240", "timeEnd": "188.240" } ] }, { "type": "speech", "speaker": "Ayse Asar", "speakerstatus": "main-speaker", "text": "

Meine Damen und Herren, Wissenschaftsfreiheit zu schützen, heißt nicht nur, gegen diesen Antrag zu stimmen. Es heißt: verlässliche Grundfinanzierung, damit Hochschulen unabhängig von politischem Druck lehren und forschen können,

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(Beifall der Abg. Nicole Gohlke [Die Linke] – Nicole Gohlke [Die Linke]: Richtig! Sehr gut! Guter Punkt!)

", "sentences": [ { "text": "(Beifall der Abg. Nicole Gohlke [Die Linke] – Nicole Gohlke [Die Linke]: Richtig! Sehr gut! Guter Punkt!)", "timeStart": "188.240", "timeEnd": "200.920" } ] }, { "type": "speech", "speaker": "Ayse Asar", "speakerstatus": "main-speaker", "text": "

internationale Offenheit, weil Wissenschaft keine Grenzen kennt. Und es bedeutet klare Grenzen gegenüber politischer Einflussnahme, auch wenn sie mit Bundestagsbriefkopf kommt.

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Meine Botschaft an alle Wissenschaftlerinnen und Wissenschaftler: Ihre Arbeit hat hier Rückhalt.

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(Jörn König [AfD]: Hier! Bei uns! – Dr. Christoph Birghan [AfD]: Bis Sie Ihre Leute in die Institute schicken und sie verwüsten! Wer verwüstet denn die Institute? Wer verwüstet die? – Dr. Ingo Hahn [AfD]: Verhindern Sie das!)

", "sentences": [ { "text": "(Jörn König [AfD]: Hier! Bei uns! – Dr. Christoph Birghan [AfD]: Bis Sie Ihre Leute in die Institute schicken und sie verwüsten! Wer verwüstet denn die Institute? Wer verwüstet die? – Dr. Ingo Hahn [AfD]: Verhindern Sie das!)", "timeStart": "208.800", "timeEnd": "228.800" } ] }, { "type": "speech", "speaker": "Ayse Asar", "speakerstatus": "main-speaker", "text": "

Nicht mit uns werden Lehrstühle markiert, nicht mit uns werden Disziplinen abgewickelt, nicht mit uns. Die AfD hat die Wissenschaftsfreiheit heute auf die Tagesordnung gesetzt. Was sie damit meint? Freiheit für die Wissenschaft,

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(Dr. Christoph Birghan [AfD]: Ja! Das meinen wir!)

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die ihr gefällt. Das ist kein Liberalismus, das ist Kulturkampf mit wissenschaftlichem Vokabular. Ein Brandstifter schützt kein Denkmal.

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(Nicole Höchst [AfD]: Damit kennen Sie sich aus!)

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Vielen Dank.

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(Beifall beim BÜNDNIS 90/DIE GRÜNEN sowie bei Abgeordneten der SPD)

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Vielen Dank. – Der nächste Redner ist Oliver Kaczmarek für die SPD-Fraktion.

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(Beifall bei der SPD sowie bei Abgeordneten der CDU/CSU)

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Sehr geehrter Herr Präsident! Sehr geehrte Kolleginnen und Kollegen! Die AfD kennt offensichtlich nicht den Unterschied zwischen Meinung und Wissenschaft. Die AfD für Wissenschaftsfreiheit. Das ist wie ein Brandstifter, der sich für den Denkmalschutz einsetzt – solange ihm das Denkmal gefällt. Denn darum geht es hier: nicht um Freiheit, sondern um Selektion. Welche Wissenschaft darf sein, und welche soll verschwinden?

(Dr. Christoph Birghan [AfD]: Wissenschaft kennen Sie doch nur von außen! – Gegenruf des Abg. Sven Lehmann [BÜNDNIS 90/DIE GRÜNEN]: Jetzt mal ruhig hier! – Lachen bei Abgeordneten der AfD – Gegenruf des Abg. Jörn König [AfD]: Herr Lehmann! Das ist ja ein Lacher! – Weiterer Gegenruf des Abg. Dr. Ingo Hahn [AfD]: Der war gut!)

Wissenschaftsfreiheit ist kein linker oder rechter Wert. Sie ist die Grundlage jeder offenen Gesellschaft. Deshalb müssen wir heute klar benennen, was dieser Antrag wirklich ist. Alice Weidel hat auf dem AfD-Parteitag im Januar 2025 offen ausgesprochen – ich zitiere mit Zustimmung des Präsidenten –: „Wir schmeißen […] diese Professoren raus.“ Kein Halbsatz, kein Konjunktiv – ein Versprechen.

(Dr. Bernd Baumann [AfD]: Die links-grünen Ideologen waren gemeint! Ihresgleichen!)

Das ist keine Kritik an der Wissenschaft, das ist eine Drohung gegen sie.

(Beifall beim BÜNDNIS 90/DIE GRÜNEN sowie bei Abgeordneten der SPD und der Abg. Sonja Lemke [Die Linke])

Und es bleibt nicht bei Drohungen. Auch das AfD-Wahlprogramm aus Sachsen-Anhalt liest sich wie eine Drohkulisse gegen die Hochschulen: Hochschulgremien werden als pseudodemokratisch abgewertet,

(Dr. Bernd Baumann [AfD]: Gibt ja genug davon! – Dr. Christoph Birghan [AfD]: Das sind sie!)

und am Ende steht die offene Ankündigung, die AfD werde die deutsche Wissenschaft „zu sich selbst befreien“.

(Dr. Bernd Baumann [AfD]: Das wäre schön!)

Befreien von wem?

(Dr. Bernd Baumann [AfD]: Von links-grünen Ideologen, die sie kaputtmachen!)

Von den Wissenschaftlerinnen und Wissenschaftlern, die in ihr arbeiten!

Dazu kommen gezielte parlamentarische Anfragen zu einzelnen Seminaren, zu konkreten Lehrveranstaltungen – nicht um zu verstehen, sondern um zu markieren, um Druck zu erzeugen, um Forschende einzuschüchtern.

(Jörn König [AfD]: Wie war das: Frontalagentin? Das war von euch! Und ihr habt die alle markieren wollen, die Leute!)

Das ist kein Plädoyer für Freiheit, das ist das Gegenteil.

(Beifall beim BÜNDNIS 90/DIE GRÜNEN sowie bei Abgeordneten der SPD und der Abg. Sonja Lemke [Die Linke])

Nun könnte man sagen, das betrifft doch nur bestimmte Fächer. Aber ich frage Sie: Wer entscheidet, welche Wissenschaft erlaubt ist?

(Zuruf von der AfD: Sie nicht!)

Heute ist es Postkolonialismus, morgen die Klimaforschung und übermorgen jede Disziplin, deren Ergebnisse Ihnen politisch nicht passen. Dann entscheidet nicht mehr Methode oder Erkenntnisstand, sondern Ideologie.

(Dr. Bernd Baumann [AfD]: Das ist ja jetzt schon so! – Dr. Ingo Hahn [AfD]: Das ist der Status quo!)

Das ist das Ende der Wissenschaftsfreiheit, egal welches Fach es ist.

(Dr. Christoph Birghan [AfD]: Wer hat denn die Cancel-Culture eingeführt?)

Besonders aufmerksam sollten wir beim Begriff der Neutralität sein. „ Neutralität“ klingt harmlos. Aber staatlich verordnete Neutralität bedeutet in der Praxis: Schweigen, wo Forschung unbequem ist, Schweigen zum Klimawandel,

(Dr. Ingo Hahn [AfD]: Der Klimawandel schweigt ja nicht, wie wir mitbekommen haben!)

Schweigen zu Rechtsextremismus, Schweigen dort, wo Fakten politisch stören.

Erlauben Sie eine Zwischenfrage aus der AfD-Fraktion?

Nein.

(Dr. Ingo Hahn [AfD]: Das haben wir uns gedacht!)

Setzen Sie Ihre Rede fort.

Wissenschaft ist dem Wissen verpflichtet, nicht der politischen Bequemlichkeit. Das ist der Unterschied zwischen Erkenntnis und Propaganda.

(Beifall beim BÜNDNIS 90/DIE GRÜNEN sowie bei Abgeordneten der SPD und der Abg. Nicole Gohlke [Die Linke] – Zuruf der Abg. Nicole Höchst [AfD])

Meine Damen und Herren, Wissenschaftsfreiheit zu schützen, heißt nicht nur, gegen diesen Antrag zu stimmen. Es heißt: verlässliche Grundfinanzierung, damit Hochschulen unabhängig von politischem Druck lehren und forschen können,

(Beifall der Abg. Nicole Gohlke [Die Linke] – Nicole Gohlke [Die Linke]: Richtig! Sehr gut! Guter Punkt!)

internationale Offenheit, weil Wissenschaft keine Grenzen kennt. Und es bedeutet klare Grenzen gegenüber politischer Einflussnahme, auch wenn sie mit Bundestagsbriefkopf kommt.

Meine Botschaft an alle Wissenschaftlerinnen und Wissenschaftler: Ihre Arbeit hat hier Rückhalt.

(Jörn König [AfD]: Hier! Bei uns! – Dr. Christoph Birghan [AfD]: Bis Sie Ihre Leute in die Institute schicken und sie verwüsten! Wer verwüstet denn die Institute? Wer verwüstet die? – Dr. Ingo Hahn [AfD]: Verhindern Sie das!)

Nicht mit uns werden Lehrstühle markiert, nicht mit uns werden Disziplinen abgewickelt, nicht mit uns. Die AfD hat die Wissenschaftsfreiheit heute auf die Tagesordnung gesetzt. Was sie damit meint? Freiheit für die Wissenschaft,

(Dr. Christoph Birghan [AfD]: Ja! Das meinen wir!)

die ihr gefällt. Das ist kein Liberalismus, das ist Kulturkampf mit wissenschaftlichem Vokabular. Ein Brandstifter schützt kein Denkmal.

(Nicole Höchst [AfD]: Damit kennen Sie sich aus!)

Vielen Dank.

(Beifall beim BÜNDNIS 90/DIE GRÜNEN sowie bei Abgeordneten der SPD)

Vielen Dank. – Der nächste Redner ist Oliver Kaczmarek für die SPD-Fraktion.

(Beifall bei der SPD sowie bei Abgeordneten der CDU/CSU)

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